This week’s Friday Power Lunch takes on the chaos shaping our political moment—how it operates, why it’s not accidental, and how people can push back effectively.
The conversation opens with Kate Ertmann, a writer and math researcher who applies chaos theory and systems thinking to human behavior and governance. She explains why today’s constant disruption is patterned and strategic, and how recognizing those patterns allows people to reclaim agency and respond with smart, targeted actions.
The discussion then turns to Glenn Kirschner, who examines what happens when chaos gives way to lawlessness. Drawing on decades inside the justice system, he breaks down the rule of law, accountability, and what citizens should demand when corruption feels normalized and consequences appear optional.
Together, the episode connects theory and law to understand the storm and identify the guardrails—so we can fight back strategically and together.